THEY ARE WRONG about NUTRIENT DENSITY | animal foods or plant foods?

THEY ARE WRONG about NUTRIENT DENSITY | animal foods or plant foods?



nutrient density is the idea like the measurement is something is more nutrient-dense if per calorie it has it meets more of your nutritional needs from a micronutrient level so so the idea behind that people who are trying to say eat more nutrient-dense foods they're saying prefer something that for the same calories gives you more micronutrients and there's a certain sense in which that make but but if you were just going to take that to the extreme in the same way as the protein sparing modified fast you the best the hands-down the best way to get the highest nutrient density dot I only eat vitamins I mean no calories whatsoever and obviously that's not sustainable either in the same way the even if you generously threw in protein as a macronutrient you're still your your highest nutrient density food is is going to your diet is going to end up being energy lists and therefore a very poor diet hey my standards so it's a good segue into nutrient density right like why my nutrient density not be such an applicable term we see you know I mean I've used this a lot myself talking about the most nutrient dense foods being animal foods right but of course we're talking about certain nutrients right you can make the argue that argument that well carrots are the most nutrient dense food because they come with loads of vitamin A beta carotene so I guess we can cherry pick and we can make that word kind of mean a lot of different things but yeah what's your gripe with nutrient density why might we mean we want to think twice about using that word so so flippantly well the bottom line comes to what's under the bottom line and that's energy you know the whole metric is dividing out energy is if it's you know it's penalizing it so so a carrot is going to be like you said it's going to measured as more nutrient dense than liver because liver has some calories in it and maybe carrot is not the best example but like say spinach spinach is almost infinitely more nutrient dense than liver because it has almost no calories does that mean it's you should never eat liver or or or say a piece of steak which also has a lot of nutrients in it or an egg for example an egg yolk has so much nutrition in it so much vital nutrition you can't get it really get it any other way then animal source foods to get that combination of like choline and and the fatty acids and all those things that you need but it comes along with energy and this is being treated as if it's a bad thing well where the truth is we need the other these are high calorie foods that get said like it's an online of high-calorie foods why is that a bad thing it's a funny thing and yeah you're right spinach when you think about it on paper spinach per pound it must be so nutrient dense but I mean so much of that is fiber so much that indigestible material and then also that nutrient content as well ox allayed content stuff like that could probably interfere with some other nutrients being absorbed so I think we're not taking these into account then maybe we're maybe we're not seeing the whole picture so if you tried to construct a diet to hit all the RDAs and I have a whole other beef with that which I've gone to before and and I've talked a lot about it the carnivore conference but supposing supposing you just took the RDAs as an assumption for the moment you're trying to hit your RDAs based on plant foods and you were gonna choose only the foods that had the highest nutrient density that means you're penalizing anything that has any kind of energy in it including protein you're gonna end up eating a whole bunch of stuff and you're still not gonna have met all your needs and to me that that's highly problematic and you talked about you mentioned about how there are different nutrients as well so so yeah if you if you already have your daily amount of vitamin A then some other food that has vitamin A is going to continue to be nutrient dense and it's not going to help you at all at the point you're in because now you need now you need these other nutrients and if you if you keep following this line of reasoning basically you figure out that what you the ideal food is something that provides you all of the nutrients that you need in the correct amounts and ratios and provides energy and protein at the same time and that food happens to be meat of course we've got a balance of so many different elements that we've got to consider when we're looking at so-called nutrient density as well what what nutrients and in what context interesting so what about food and when people say well nutrient density in organs is really important so a lot of people say that you know I for one I really enjoy eating foods like liver I know you eat liver as well we put like a whole shout out to Jessica for the book so we can put a whole section on organs and how to use and use awful and use the whole animal in the carnivore cookbook which yeah got you copy you know you got some books my book works in there too that's cool I do know we're so happy to finally get it out so if you guys are interested it is there's a link in the description you can check out the carnivore cookbook it's it's all animal foods zero carb recipes for people who really love animals but yeah we put a lot of work into making sure that we we like to eat and kind of nose-to-tail right because it's what's available it's a little bit more affordable for us it it's fun and we really like these different we like the variety some people they're doing great I'll just realize like not worry about any of this enough at all so I'm so remiss to tell people you must eat liver you must eat organs and I never tell people that got to I think it's interesting to try I think it's fun too to include a little bit more variety in there but when you look at something like liver certain nutrients you're not gonna find those in such abundance in other foods you know vitamin A in the retinol form some of these B vitamins available in there's a really really high levels and liver for that reason I'd like to say liver is a very nutrient-dense food but might I be maybe making a mistake by saying liver would be more nutrient dense than something like muscle meat right or like a nice rib eye well it's not it's not technically false and and I and I think it gets at the right idea I mean I tend to be picky semantically but the reason that I'm picky with people about semantics is because I see everyday people taking the literal meaning of a rule that you've made and and applying that without you know using any extra brainpower and coming up with ludicrous results so to say that an animal-based diet with some liver added is more nutrient dense I think that's that's a meaningful and fair thing to say but to say you know don't eat high fat or don't add lard to your meal because it's not nutrient dense or choose liver and start

28 thoughts on “THEY ARE WRONG about NUTRIENT DENSITY | animal foods or plant foods?

  1. Hey im very interested in Keto or Carnivore Diet but in many Articles i read i comes to a bad constipation if u dont eat any fibre how can i handle this? Thx

  2. 50 years ago being veganist was an individual choice, but now the evil UN, and " health organisation " put a but a veganism propaganda , and thats their plan to kill people

  3. Ah yes – nutrient density. Let's make toilet paper infused with vitamins to get infinite nutrient density and high fiber!! 😁
    Put zero calories in the denominator and you too can be healthy by eating shyt or ice cubes fortified with vitamins.
    The vegans have been gaming the science statistics for generations. It's an info war and carnivores are late the the rumble.

  4. We keep hearing that carbohydrates (plants) contain only 4 calories per gram, but fats contain 9 calories, as if that was a bad thing. Calories are energy, grams describe 'how much stuff'. Ergo, you have to eat 2.25x more grams of plant 'stuff' to get the equivalent energy in 1 gram of fat 'stuff'. Would these people complain that gasoline that provides only 4 miles per gallon is better than gasoline that provides 9 miles per gallon? Or is my analogy in left field?

  5. Fruits do contain a lot of essential minerals and some vitamins. It has healing properties if combined with fasting, hence why ‘they’ keep genetically modifying all fruits to have less minerals and vitamins and more fructose. Causing people to start getting issues when eating these fruits long-term. Making them believe that fruits are actually bad when in fact it’s not. We literally share 98% of our genes with a species that mainly eats fruitarian. (Not saying that we should go fruitarian)

    Just eat your fruits… but make sure you’re eating oldskool fruits haha 😉

    God/nature has given us vegetables and fruits to cleanse ourselves, and meat to rebuild ourselves.

    PS: I think that’s why the ‘elite’ is pushing the vegan agenda. Not because plants and fruits are so bad or malnourishing, but because of genetical modification of these plants and fruits that wreaks havoc on our system. Not to mention the toxic shit they spray on these to put the cherry on top.

  6. nice work man.
    I think giving bit sized extracts of each interview joe Rogan style is an excellent idea!
    some people don't have the time or the patience to sit through multiple hours of interview to extract the meaningful information.

  7. Sincere question for the carnivores out there:  Is it okay to use some dry spices? Do you eat cheese? What about a coffee w/ stevia drops in the morning?

  8. Nope sorry but after taking oxalates out of my diet I got rid of IBS flare ups and also horrible inflammation in my knees and kidneys ! Also eliminated the kale , spinach , lettuce , nuts , tomatoes , bell peppers and eggplant !!! I love the simplicity of the way I eat .

  9. I do good all week then I LOSE MY SHIT on the weekend.
    I'm back here before my work week starts need motivation getting back on the horse~
    Not sure why I do this to myself right when I start feeling the fat burning mode lol

  10. Matt Lalonde has an excellent talk on nutrient density. Nutrient density should be measured by VOLUME not calories. By that metric, animal sources are more nutrient dense than any plant.

  11. Heard a shout out about your keto carnivore collective on the latest episode of boiler room. Keep up the good work!

  12. I'd rather eat higher calorie foods with better quality micros. They keep you full longer but bloat you less. Keeps my tummy flat!

  13. A lot of people think they won't like organ meats, because they've never had them. I was like that, but then I tried liver sausage and really liked it. I think most people think the concept is gross, but would like it if they tried it. Most people like chorizo, for instance, but don't know that it's made up of lymph nodes and salivary glands.

    As for nutrient density, I think it's also important to note that macronutrients are nutrients, too. Your body needs fat, protein, and carbs for optimal health.

  14. People with an Irish or Icelandic background, have a reduced genetic capacity to convert carotenoids in muscle meat, for others it varies, then liver and eggs are a necessity not optional. This has happened because their ancestors consumed heaps of cod liver and their genetics down regulated the other pathway to prevent vitamin A toxicity.
    Also if you are in 55% North & 45% South European that have this gene rs7946(TT), you will need choline form eggs or organ meats to help methylate homocysteine back to methionine, otherwise on a high muscle meat diet, you will end up with methylation issues, unless you eat nose to tail.

  15. Eat meat , meat fuels us, heals us and most importantly : keeps us from deteriorating into those zombies that dr mcdougal and dr Gregor are

  16. Beef Liver contains about 42 I.U. of vitamin D3 in three ounces. One egg contain about 40 I.U. These measurements are for conventionally raised beef and eggs. Not organic or family-farm.

  17. My mom lived to be 93. I'm so grateful for my parents. My parents knew better than to follow all these fads. I grew up with raw milk, lots of it. My mom always used butter, lard for all her baking. Beef, veal liver, pork, chicken and eggs is what my family grew up on and I have all my mom's recipes. My parents taught me well ❤

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